Bridgehugger Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 For anyone who is interested. The first Taipan was built in April 1988. The following year 5 more were built and boat 100 was built in 1994. The sail numbers were issued sequentially starting at 1 and the last boat just sold is 339. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooD Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Don't forget about the taipan 5.7's that help to make up sail number 339. a little over 300 boats in 20 years, its not very good is it. in 20 years how many hobie 16's have hit the water? they are probably still doing close to 300 boats a year now. Its quite remarkable a product that is so good has sold so poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehugger Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 What you say is true Hood, but I'll bet a 1994 Hobie 16 wouldn't bring 8k. There are not too many 4.9 Taipans that are factory built, if you can find one, under that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Very good info. So 1988 - boat # 1 1994 - boat # 100 2008 - boat # 339 Can anyone expand on this. Very handy for those who are potentially in the market for a 4.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 1988 - boat # 1 1994 - boat # 100 2000 - boat # 228 (2000 or earlier) 2008 - boat # 339 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooD Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 hardly fair to compare the pricing of a 1994 H16 to a 1994 Taipan. the Taipan cost close to 8k more than the hobie, so you can throw the hobie away and come out even. there in lies the major problem with the 4.9. they hold thier value far too well. it makes it very difficult for new sailors to get into the class when the used boats are so expensive. class's like lasers and hobie 16's have thrived on good sailors that choose to buy new boats after 12-18 months, and pass thier boats on rather than buy new sails. taipan sailors buy new sails, not new boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoSport260 Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 One of the reasons the pro's buy new lasers every year is they need a new sail every year... at $1k for a sail they sell the boat for $1k less than they bought it, so for the price of the sail (which they needed anyway) they get a new boat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Great information, thankyou. I have heard a rumor of a batch that may not have been as competative as others, as is the case for most boats. Has anyone heard this, and what year/sail no. would they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Change Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Originally posted by Herman: Great information, thankyou. I have heard a rumor of a batch that may not have been as competative as others, as is the case for most boats. Has anyone heard this, and what year/sail no. would they be? I find that rumours generally are just that .... rumours. Usually started by disaffected people Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooD Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 TESTIMONIALS Thanks for making the improvements. I’m just writing a short note to complement you on the changes made to the 4.9 Taipan hull. Having now owned both the series one hulls, (three part mould) and the series two hulls, (two part mould) I have to say that the later built hulls have improved performance on the earlier boat. The changes to hull shape has meant that the hull now planes earlier and due to the increased buoyancy, they re-surface better when reaching and running. And in my opinion allows the boat to tack easier. I have sailed the boat in all conditions and I believe there is no question that the latest version hull have distinct advantages to performance and handling. Thanks for making the improvements. Dennis Baker Victoria AUS 229 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryK1200LT Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Originally posted by Herman: Great information, thankyou. I have heard a rumor of a batch that may not have been as competative as others, as is the case for most boats. Has anyone heard this, and what year/sail no. would they be? Hi Herman, Maybe it's just a case of less competitive sailors rather than less competative boats? Cheers Barry [This message has been edited by BarryK1200LT (edited 07 September 2008).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Originally posted by tornado: 1988 - boat # 1 1994 - boat # 100 2000 - boat # 228 (2000 or earlier) 2008 - boat # 339 Can anyone expand on this, it may come in really usefull for potential buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Originally posted by HooD: TESTIMONIALS Thanks for making the improvements. I’m just writing a short note to complement you on the changes made to the 4.9 Taipan hull. Having now owned both the series one hulls, (three part mould) and the series two hulls, (two part mould) I have to say that the later built hulls have improved performance on the earlier boat. The changes to hull shape has meant that the hull now planes earlier and due to the increased buoyancy, they re-surface better when reaching and running. And in my opinion allows the boat to tack easier. I have sailed the boat in all conditions and I believe there is no question that the latest version hull have distinct advantages to performance and handling. Thanks for making the improvements. Dennis Baker Victoria AUS 229 What year's/sail no.'s were these 3 part moulds in construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooD Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 http://www.ahpc.com.au/p_testimonials.htm I have a feeling its around boat 200. that is what I have read, cant remember where though. you could always email AHPC and find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Homan 051 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Correct me if im wrong, wouldn't you rather buy into a class where you can buy a boat that is 15 years old and be more than competitive with any other class on the water. To be competitive on a hobie you cant have a boat more than 2 years old because they get soft this is why all the good guys upgrade every couple of years, have you ever seen a 15 year old 16 beat all the new ones around the course or been at the front of the fleet. I dont think so!!. This is why the taipan holds its value so good because you dont have to have a new boat to win states and nationals this has been proven over the years in both cat rigged and sloop rigged. I know I would rather spend 8 grand on a taipan and 5 years later sell it for the same money or even more than what I paid for it. I think its the best starter class for youth looking to start sailing doesn't matter if you spend 4 grand or 20 grand there all the same speed. I'm pretty sure for a new 16 on a trailer they are close to 18 grand anyway for an extra 3 grand I know what I would rather have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hi Matt, You know a bit about Taipans. Can you please even just loosly expand on the following. 1988 - boat # 1 1994 - boat # 100 2000 - boat # 228 (2000 or earlier) 2008 - boat # 339 Cheers Stephen Medwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Homan 051 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 not sure on sail numbers but I had 051 and it was built around 1992 or 1993 i think. cheers Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryK1200LT Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 051 is a good boat Matt, and it sails well 2 up, 1 up and none up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgehugger Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The owner of 051 likes to sail alone, but 051 would rather sail by itself. Counciling may provide a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausstricker Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Found this while searching through the taipan forum hope it helps From sam257 HI tgh, The older style boats are still very competitive in all classes. Boats 0-180 are made in a three pice mould and boats 181 - curret are a two pice mould (joined along the center line). The yahoo forum is very active but I don't know who looks after it , It took me a long time to get on as well I will try to fing out how you should contact. Cheers Shane [This message has been edited by ausstricker (edited 11 September 2008).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyj Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 153,154, 155 1998 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornado Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Thanks, so far I have 1988 - boat # 1 ....... – boat # 29 Late 80s - boat # 65 1994 - boat # 100 ....... - boat # 122 1998 – boat # 155 ....... - boat # 180 2000 - boat # 228 Nov 2001 - boat # 246 2008 - boat # 339 What else should you look for in a 4.9 Hulls - Glass, Kevlar, double Kevlar Main - big head Spreaders - proctor adjustable spreaders C/boards - Glass / Carbon Rudders - Glass / Carbon, rod lock down Rudder stocks - Alloy / Carbon Beach wheels - Eurotrax Trailer - No tie down / galvanised registered. What is a new main with battens worth? As far as I am concerned, a boat without a big main should be 2k (?) cheaper. [This message has been edited by tornado (edited 15 September 2008).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slammer Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 1998 – boat # 155 ....... - boat # 180 2000 - boat # 228 QUOTE] boat #163 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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