becjm Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 I don't know much about yardsticks, but from this... http://www.vic.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/vic/downloads/Yardsticks06_07.pdf ...it seems we as cat sailors need to send all results in to ensure a strong & fair racing future. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leapin Leroy Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Too right, the biggest problem seems to be the burgeoning load of paperwork that our administrators have to wade through (read; nanny state- legislative requirements, insurance- liability & otherwise, financial management & reporting, let alone astablishing who won on handicap... the list goes on) then there's the lack of volunteers or "apprentices" willing to step up to the plate. There are always many, quick to criticise but, and it's a BIG but, few prepared to have a go! I've had a successful go on a number of occasions... I'm not sure what the answer is? What about bringing back the family involvement at a club level? What about the gung ho "all-for-one & one-for-none, just here to race types" (who just want to turn up sail & go home) being asked to get involved in the club roster or else their membership gets revoked? They'll soon run out of places to go... The strongest clubs that i've seen in the whole time i've been sailing (27+ years) [that don't have pokies or marina's and a proliferation of stink boat owners] are the ones that actively encourage and accommodate the family participation? Get mum or the girlfriend involved... not just because "it's her turn on the roster", but because she wants to be there??? I know of one club here in Brisbane that has decided to do something about it and we (my dearly beloved & 2 small children) will certainly be there!!! The more we go back to the roots of why we all got involved, the more likely we are to get volunteers from within the ranks... [Added later], sounds romantic? I think it's a simple truth? Just my fitty cents werf! Regards, Leroy [This message has been edited by Leapin Leroy (edited 04 September 2007).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leapin Leroy Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 oops, did it again didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Too right!!!!!! Been there,Done that. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dood Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Arent you a member of R,Q Leroy. The place were you dont have to do anything. Or are you changing places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leapin Leroy Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Yeah man, sure am... and don't necessarily like that side of it either... also a member else-where too... Fact still remains that the clubs (even the big ones) don't get enough info into the V.Y.C. So what do we do about IT??? Regards, Leroy Edited for grammar. [This message has been edited by Leapin Leroy (edited 05 September 2007).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mal gray Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 No matter how much data is submitted to the yardstick committee, yardstick racing is never even. Someone will always get a yardstick advantage and others will complain. If you want to give everyone a chance to take home a trophy, have a lucky saildraw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooD Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I think it is only one side of the coin to say that clubs are not putting enough results into the vyc. i think the vyc needs to share responsibilty for the lack of results. AFAIK. they do not actively encourage clubs to remit results. they do no make contact with clubs to ask for the results. they do not provide a simple mechanism for submitting results. and its not like it would be difficult to send mail/email to every yacht club in australia as they are all listed in the yachting australia database. yours sincerely cheif scorer/handicapper L.Y.C. TAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 A Lucky Sail draw. HYC is doing that this year . And everyone wins a prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 There you go Mal, you got a chance of wining something! (ps you don't have to worry about loseing your anchor at humpybong ha,ha,ha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leapin Leroy Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Hood, Fair comment... What can we do about that as well? Mal, You're right as well. In this day and age of computers, i would have thought that some enterprising possum would have (with sufficient info) been able come up with a program that could factor in some variables... It would never be perfect (just like the weather), but at least it would be a little more palatable in terms of understanding what those variables are... That leaves us in the position that both clubs and the VYC need to do more... Hmmmm..... Any Volunteers??? Just my fitty sents werf! Leroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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