Bnaccas Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 Hi, I'm looking at getting a Cat for summer and beyond and I grew up on a Maricat 4.3m. I was looking for something a bit bigger and I have found a Maricat 4.8m for sale. This is the first time I have seen one and the hulls look nice and fast. The ad doesn't really have any detail about the model itself, like if there's a jib included, trapeze. The photos don't show a boom either. Can anyone please give me some feedback on how they compare to other 14's and 16's? - Ease of rigging and sailing - Finding spare parts - Body weight the Mari 4.8 would comfortably carry for recreational sailing - Speed compared to older Hobie 16's, Windrush 14 etc Cost is $1900 which is around what I'm willing to spend. Is that a fair price? (It's in good nic) Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks Brendan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humungus2 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 It should have a trap. They are a heavy boat. No boom, Just a main sail. When I use to race against them 20 years ago they were fast. Easy to rigg. 100kg ok weight for sailing. Its hard to say what a fair price is but it would want to be in excelent condition at that price. The tramp will cost at least $500. so check it out properly. I may have some parts if needed. Mick 0419999785 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remo Posted November 2, 2011 Report Share Posted November 2, 2011 $1900- is a LOT for a 4.8. My boss just bought one in excellent condition for $600. They are heavy, very heavy. I have seen them come up in the past for around the same price. Talking that price, stick to the mari- give mick a call (above)- you'll get a lot more cat for your buck. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 I'd be surprised if there were a dozen 4.8s surviving, no second hand parts available, many better cats available, if you are stepping up from a 14 look at mosquito, nacra, taipan or even hydra, as Mick said, it would have to be in perfect nick for that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Change Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 When darcy speaks you would be wise to listen. Having owned two Mari 4.8's there is no way in hell that I would want to be in the position to claim that I had owned three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bnaccas Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Thanks guys for the feedback. I think I will stay away from it. I don't know much about Mosquitos or Taipans so will have a look into them. I'm a big fan of Nacra, did a handful of races on a 5.8 when I was a kid with my Dad. I just remember it was FAST and BIG. I'd be happy to pick up a 5.0 or 5.2 if I could find one in Melbourne. The main reason I'm getting away from the Maricat 4.3 is because of load capacity. I thought it would struggle with 2 adults and 2 kids going for a Sunday cruise. I don't want to have to leave someone on the beach. Is the hull volume of the original Maricat and the MkII the same? Am I incorrect in saying the 4.3 would sit extremely low in the water carrying 160kg? Also, can anyone tell me if Maricat 4.3 sail no. 1938 is a Mk1 or MkII? The owner of one for sail doesn't know. If there a distinguishing feature that would make it obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointed Reply Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 160kg and four people would be a lot....and not a lot of room either. Assuming 1938 is the original sail then it would be a mark 1. Main feature is that a mark 2 has an integrated rear beam and traveller, while the mark 1 has a separate traveller track. Other than that the boats are about the same. 1938 is probably around 1980 model. But the age and mark is not really important.....the condition is the main thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 1. keep the Mari to race 2. buy a Careel 18 to take the family out - www.careel.com - there's a real nice example there - #200 Katrina!conv_443.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 The main reason I'm getting away from the Maricat 4.3 is because of load capacity. I thought it would struggle with 2 adults and 2 kids going for a Sunday cruise. I don't want to have to leave someone on the beach. Is the hull volume of the original Maricat and the MkII the same? Am I incorrect in saying the 4.3 would sit extremely low in the water carrying 160kg? Also, can anyone tell me if Maricat 4.3 sail no. 1938 is a Mk1 or MkII? The owner of one for sail doesn't know. If there a distinguishing feature that would make it obvious? I took my 25 yo daughter out on mine and we did tend to sink it until we got going. Even managed to make the windward hull hover a bit. Our tacks had to be carefully thought out in advance. I'd look at Hobie Getaways for what you want to do. Mark II has an integrated traveller back-beam whereas on the Mark I these are separate. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bnaccas Posted November 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Thanks everyone for the replies. The only thing stopping me from getting something like the Hobie Getaway, newer Nacra etc is budget. Been advised I have about $2000 to spend (maybe $2500). The old man might be driving down from Nth QLD so might be able to pick up a cat along the way which might be handy as there are a lot more for sales interstate. I am looking at a couple Hobie 17's for sale in Victoria. I always liked the look of them back in the day. could this be a good option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 Hobie 18 are a great family boat, big volume, good performance, furling jib. A tuff boat but heavy, a bit of effort required to rig and hard to find a good 1, a roughie starts at $1500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Change Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Depending on the condition versus price thingy it could well a very good option. Hobies in general are pretty bullet proof in most departments, 17's have centre boards so this one area that I would be paying attention to as well as having a good squizz at the rudder system which can be another source of annoyance. The sail if I recall is a laminated affair and is prone to delamination and therefore another unwanted cost. Look carefully and you may well be rewarded with a true gem. Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtie2611 Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 A friend of mine just bought 1938 ( if it was the one near melb.) , seems to be a very nice boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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