Blackhawke Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 Thanks for the photo's as well PP appreciate your clarifications and the photo tell a thousand words. Just looking into costs of getting Mylar sails from windrush now but in interim trying to sort as much out as can so all advice is welcomed Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Just a wicked little idea, since you're in NZ and unless you want to sail against other Windy's why not go to another sailmaker to see how much they cost for a set. Usually third party sails are cheaper and at least as good as the 'real thing'. There's an online place there sailsonline I think, or maybe Taskers in Thailand. My Maricat sail comes from Taskers, it isn't as good as the 'real thing' ie one from an Oz racing sailmaker but it is significantly better than the old one it replaces, cost me $850 compared with at least $1400 for the local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hmmm - while it's nice to save money, you really do – (99% of the time) – get what you pay for... Windrush has spent the time to match the sails it develops to the mast section - and this translates directly to boat speed. They're also developing a second set of battens for the new fat-head sail - to make it a more easily handling sail at the top end of its wind range... this kind of development costs - and you simply won't get the same performance from a 'clone'... If sailors who like the boat want the Windrush 14 to 'keep-on-keeping-on', please support the manufacturer whenever possible - after all the Windrush 14 is a classic design and still works brilliantly - it would be sad to see it's demise through lack of customer support... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Fair nuff but consider the cost of transport over to enzed, it'd cost a fortune, particularly with the battens. Most sailmakers would be able to assess the mast characteristics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whollsee Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Totally see your point prince, we all have our "sacred cows" but actually are we really that consistent with the "ethics" of where we spend our coin from "non-genuine" car parts/generic meds/ to stuff off the supermarket shelves? [who eats Dick?] You also gotta ask sometimes whether the companies which urge our loyalty comply to the same standards when it comes to doing their business. Not lumping Windrush in with that lot because I wouldn't have a clue. Getting too general, sorry - windrush of blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well, I'm in small business too - just like Windrush are – and I know how bloody difficult it is to stay afloat in the current retail climate... of course I'm not saying that anyone should be paying ridiculously inflated prices for original manufacturer's products - but if you look at any of the major manufacturer's price-lists, Windrush is certainly no dearer, and in many cases is better value... My point is that if you like the boat, then please support the manufacturer - it's the only way the class will survive - as every dollar counts to struggling retailers and manufacturers... As for 'who eats Dick' – (I'm assuming you aren't being pornographic or homophobic with that question - and there's definitely something wrong with that... LOL) – well it all comes down to how much you wanna support local producers... I'm not much into peanut butter myself - but if there are other products that I purchased and Mr Smith's products weren't too far away in price - I'd definitely go for them instead... coz what he says makes a LOT of sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawke Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi guys, have emailed windrush for quotes on sails and have still yet to hear back! I agree with PP the right thing to do is to support the manufacturer as its not just sails we will need its also the unique custom parts that windrush stock so unless the pricing is extremely out of proportion we would rather purchase from windrush and support the future of the class We have 3 windy's and a hobie14 turbo that consistently beats us so hence the need for improvements. Just in process of tightening hulls with seatbelt webbing and changing rigging to the adjustable setup so making progress next will be down haul upgrade. This is the only site with any useful info for tuning so thanks to all contributors would be great to see more photos and u tube clips as these days this type of media is a great way of promoting and encouraging class growth. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Hi guys, have emailed windrush for quotes on sails and have still yet to hear back! I agree with PP the right thing to do is to support the manufacturer as its not just sails we will need its also the unique custom parts that windrush stock so unless the pricing is extremely out of proportion we would rather purchase from windrush and support the future of the class We have 3 windy's and a hobie14 turbo that consistently beats us so hence the need for improvements. Just in process of tightening hulls with seatbelt webbing and changing rigging to the adjustable setup so making progress next will be down haul upgrade. This is the only site with any useful info for tuning so thanks to all contributors would be great to see more photos and u tube clips as these days this type of media is a great way of promoting and encouraging class growth. Cheers Brett is probably recovering from traversing the country - TWICE – non-stop, in the space of a few days - for the F18 Nationals - held at Mannering Park - near Sydney. BTW, the four F18 Edges did very, very well as a group... Check out Crosbie Lorimer's site for some pix of the event... I got Club Marine down there - and the article that will (hopefully) appear in their mag will focus on Windrush as a company – and trace the development of the 14 through to the 18... so stay tuned for that - if I have anything to do with it - it will happen... http://www.crosbielorimer.com/gallery.html?gallery=F18%20National%20Championships%202013&folio=Photography If you wanted quotes on parts/sails etc - and you can't get through to Windrush direct, you could always make enquiries thru the Hero Hoists website - and I'll make sure that Brett gets them... http://www.herohoists.com.au/contactus.html Of course, check out this page for some nice pix of the 14 doing it's thang... http://www.herohoists.com.au/windrushcatamarans.html PS A finely tuned H14 Turbo in the hands of a talented skipper is a real weapon - so don't be discouraged too easily - particularly if your boats are of the older, heavier variety... are they 'bulkhead' boats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawke Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Thanks for the update and I'm sure pricing wil follow soon. I think over here we have mk1 hulls- non bulkhead hulls as most original sail no's are in the mid 2000's. I have also asked Brett to clarify what possibly was sold here. We do have a few differences here with most rear beams having an I beam track attached instead of the extrusion you appear to have. Was going to weigh hulls while in bits as tramp is being re sown, to compare what would a individual bulkhead hull weigh? Would also be interested in what mast rake you run and the way to measure this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawke Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Each hull weighed on average 38 kg so how does that stack up compared to a bulkhead hull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 For a discussion on boat weight:- http://catsailor.net/forums/showthread.php?3176-Buying-a-windrush&highlight=bulkhead+boat+weight For mast rake - see this thread... http://catsailor.net/forums/showthread.php?3265-Windrush-14-mast-rake&highlight=windrush+mast+rake Hope this helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 A little heavy. My foam sandwich hulls built 2008 weighed 27.8 and 27.5kg. I did up a MkI last year and those hulls weighed 33kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justforfun Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 I recently bought a old Windrush 14 and in the coffin were ropes and pulleys galore. Does anyone have a photo of how to properly rig the downhaul and traveller. There are two holes on the rear hull cross beam where the traveller goes and I think something is missing. A decent pic would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazereth78 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Hi Justforfun Post a pic of what you've got and we'll go from there. What vintage is the boat? Gazereth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazereth78 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Have you got a 6:1 mainsheet system? If so the end of the mainsheet feeds into the traveller, which is tied off under a saddle in the back of the rear beam. this sounds like the 2 holes with 'something missing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justforfun Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Hi Gazereth The boat is quite old. maybe 20 years old or more but it doesn't seem to have been used very much. I have attached a pic. I think the saddle is missing. Off to get a new one now. [ATTACH=CONFIG]1291[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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