QB2 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 What beachcats are still being commercially or privately produced here in OZ? I think Nacra, Hobie, Taipan, F16 and 18 C2, Windrush and Calypso are either produced here or imported and assembled, but are we back to individual home builds for Stingray, A class, Arrow, Mosquito, Prindle, H18? Arafura or Tornadoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NixonJr Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I think theres about 2 or 3 arrows that get built every year - possibly more, I built a brand new cobra about two years ago now, More cobras and stingrays get refurbished then get built, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointed Reply Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 In theory you can still get a new Maricat........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB2 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 In theory you can still get a new Maricat Does anyone know how many new Maris have been built and bought in recent years? Who made/makes Stingray. I know the fibreglass factory in Adelaide has the Alpha Omega moulds for rudders and centreboards but expect the hull moulds have been tossed. Who makes Tornadoes these days? Do AHPC still make Taipans and A class? who has info on other classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korwich Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 As far as I know Scotty (5605) and my hulls (5604) were the last mari's built and they are about 5 years old now, micks mari is 5603 so it is about a year older. It is possible to get a new mari, just that a new mari will cost you more then a Nacra 430, (commercial decision on the behalf of the manufacturer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTMD Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 You can buy a Paradox Aclass which is built in Sydney, as is the Capricorn 2. Some of the older Nacras and maricat are still built in Brisbane, Windrush in Perth. Pretty sure Hobie still builds 16s here. Taipans are still available from AHPC, currently built offshore but there are plans to bring the moulds back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt15 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 There was an article about the Paradox A-Class based in Sydney in the Feb 2013 Aus Sailing + Yachting mag. It certainly looks like a bloody nice cat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Biggest problem with Mari's is that with an older mk1 or 2 you can still give the newest models a run for their money. The foamy's are usually at the front but with the older boats not far behind. The ratings make them very competitive in mixed fleets. Given the cost of an oldie is pretty damn reasonable (mine cost me $600 (base, then I added a few things)) there isn't much need for a newie. So, not really a problem except that on a floamie you'll go a lot quicker and not go down the mine as much as they seem just a little bit more bouyant, enough to know that you'll blow over a wave rather than into it! I think the manufacturer shot themselves in the foot by outpricing a new Mari. Why pay $17k for a Mari or a new 430 when you can get a very good Taipan or an older but all carbon A Class for less dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Turbulence Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Mosquito's are still built in Australia, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB2 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Mosquito's are still built in Australia' date='[/quote'] who makes them? pardon my ignorance but also which cats make up the F16 & 18 fleets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Biggest problem with Mari's is that with an older mk1 or 2 you can still give the newest models a run for their money. The foamy's are usually at the front but with the older boats not far behind. The ratings make them very competitive in mixed fleets. Given the cost of an oldie is pretty damn reasonable (mine cost me $600 (base, then I added a few things)) there isn't much need for a newie. So, not really a problem except that on a floamie you'll go a lot quicker and not go down the mine as much as they seem just a little bit more bouyant, enough to know that you'll blow over a wave rather than into it! I think the manufacturer shot themselves in the foot by outpricing a new Mari. Why pay $17k for a Mari or a new 430 when you can get a very good Taipan or an older but all carbon A Class for less dime. Because they have to pay rent and feed their family.... And then we wonder why they take manufacturing overseas, It's not like Waz drives a mercedes, he has a bloody hyundai FFS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Poor Waz, "life's a bitch, then you turn 40/50/60 (pick as appropriate)", maybe he shouldn't have built the old ones as well, but then people like me wouldn't be sailing! I've also heard that his terms of trade for dealerships isn't shall we say consistent with a good business relationship either. So I'll not be rushing off to buy a new Mari anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbieandrew Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Calypso stopped manufacturing last year, the moulds were even on gumtree (tempting for a while) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB2 Posted April 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 LR Sails (Russ & Luke McDonald) at Deception Bay are now supplying Caper cat and Calypso parts so I don't think production has ceased just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humungus2 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 New Maricat 4.3 Complete Cat Rigged $10,990.00 Happy to sell as many as you would like to buy. Call Mick 0419999785 or email me maricat43@bigpond.com Still manufatured here in Australia by Brisbane Catamaran Centre. Need a price list of parts, just let me know. As far as I know there is not a more inexpensive 4.3m production cat on the market. Corect me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karma_cat Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 who makes them? J K Fibreglass in Bendigo make Mosquitoes and there is also a new boat currently being built in Brisbane from Jim Boyer's moulds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex3033 Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Paper Tiger's are being produced by Formula Sailcraft http://www.formulasailcraft.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 J K Fibreglass in Bendigo make Mosquitoes and there is also a new boat currently being built in Brisbane from Jim Boyer's moulds. details for those chasing [ATTACH=CONFIG]1351[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 New Maricat 4.3 Complete Cat Rigged $10' date='990.00 Happy to sell as many as you would like to buy. Call Mick 0419999785 or email me [email']maricat43@bigpond.com Still manufatured here in Australia by Brisbane Catamaran Centre. Need a price list of parts, just let me know. As far as I know there is not a more inexpensive 4.3m production cat on the market. Corect me if I am wrong. That's pretty good, I cant even get a windy for that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarra bay Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 PSA on the central coast are making the new F18 capricorn and the boat seems to be getting a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted May 10, 2013 Report Share Posted May 10, 2013 Yes, a Windrush 14 is still $11,970.00 + GST. Then you need to get one over from WA to the eastern states - which is another $800.00 approx... This is the reason it's hard to get newbies into a new boat - they see 2nd hand boats for approx $3500.00 or less on trailer - and they don't see the 'value' in a new boat... Problem is the older boats are usually well past their prime - and need new sails, new rudders, new tramps etc etc - and are slow by comparison... That means the 'flame' is never truly ignited in these sailors - and they remain 'casual' sailors who simply 'potter around the bay' - and eventually lose interest... sad isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 6340 Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 In my experience most Windrush sailors buy new hulls if they want a new boat. I don't think there has been many complete new boats made in the last few years. Generally some guy has a good old boat that just needs new hulls. It's a lot cheaper to buy new foam racing hulls from Windrush than a complete new boat. A lot of the time lots of things may have already been replaced on the old boat, like sails, rigging , tramp, so the final step in buying new hulls makes sense if you want to be at the front of the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 No argument there... it absolutely makes sense to upgrade the boat piece by piece... instead of purchasing a new boat - if you have a boat already of course... My concern is the sailors who think they're going to be stepping into a 'fast' boat by spending $2500.00 - and then wonder why it just doesn't perform or feel right - when 90% of the boat needs to be upgraded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 It cost me close to $9,000 to do up my boat in 2008. New hulls, mast, rudders complete, tramp and back beam. Kept my sails 6308, boom and front beam. So you are right Rohan 90% of my boat was upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Planet Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Yes Tony - thanks for that... seems to me that those who think that sailing can be 'cheap' – and still competitive – are way off the mark... pun intended... If you want 'cheap' – then take up running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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