PP Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Just wondering what is the best way to rig the Hydra's traveler? Mine originally had the line attached to the middle of the beam and just straight through the traveler but this was no good so I attached two lines, one to each end of the beam, through the trav and back. This is better because the boom can now be pulled up to center (and even past). Problem is the purchase is wrong and fine adjustment required when trying to fly a hull is too coarse, e.g: when I let a bit off it's always too much (and too hard to hold on to) and the boat drops back in the water. I thought to make this easier I can attach the travlr lines to the trav, out to the end (or near) of the beam via a block and back through the travlr & cleat, giving a 2:1 purchase. I am sure this would make the fine adjustment much easier and precise but am also worried it will inhibit and emergency release to prevent a capsize. What is the standard(?) setup here and what have people done to their boats to improve it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 PP, Why was it "no good". The standard system is 2-1 anyway,(or that is what i was taught at school). From the rear centre of the rear beam, to the traveller, then to a swivel cleat,mounted on the front centre of the rear beam, then to hand. Why try and complicate it? pete [This message has been edited by xmatelot (edited 24 July 2007).] [This message has been edited by xmatelot (edited 24 July 2007).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 My one was not like you have described, it just went from rear centre of beam through the trav and then to hand (the traveler has cam cleats on it). If I modify it the way I was thinking it will have the same effect as the method you have described and wont be any more complicated but your description is better because I guess it would help keep the lines on board and not drag in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hi PP, The way I have described is adequate for most cats. Some guys tie the traveller sheet to the end of the mainsheet,or use the end of the mainsheet for the traveller . It's all about what is best for the individual. pete [This message has been edited by xmatelot (edited 24 July 2007).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 PP, In their "heyday", some years ago, Hydra's were reckoned to be one of the 'Hi-performance' catamarans, and some of the top sailors raced them. These guys always looked for "the edge", and modified systems, within the class rules, to get it. The traveller layout on your boat may be what appeared to be best 'at the time'. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP Posted July 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Thanks Pete. I understand the Hydra was built as a training boat for the Tornados, just scaled down in size a bit but essentially the same except for some differences in the running gear and 4 feet of hull length and proportionate beam difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 You may have different to the usual traveller. So. If your traveler has one cam cleat on it you send the tail of the main though the cleat and then through the sheeves and then tie off. You grab the tail of the mainsheet to un cleat and alter. Some cats however have a different system which enables the traveller to set higher than centre. This type of traveler has no cleat or two cleats. If no cleats then it cleats at outside of hull or beam. 2:1 is about as good as it gets and you may find minor adjustment with the main more practicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leapin Leroy Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Can you post a pic??? I'll let you know. I f*#cked about with most of the Hydra systems during the early 80's, so i'll try to give you the good oil on what worked and what didn't... Regards, Leroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP Posted July 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Thanks for the offer Leroy. My traveler is the one with 2 cam cleats on it. I will take pics and post them up if you dont remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Life will be easier if you keep your eye open for the one cleat unit. Most 12 to 18 foot older cats used them so there are heaps about. Easy to change over, just take traveler stop off and swap. Take the crappy cleat off and replace with Ronny or Harken. I had your style on my Tiger Shark..a pain really that usually needed a smaller sheet and so harder to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP Posted July 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Originally posted by warbird: Life will be easier if you keep your eye open for the one cleat unit. Most 12 to 18 foot older cats used them so there are heaps about. Easy to change over, just take traveler stop off and swap. Take the crappy cleat off and replace with Ronny or Harken. I had your style on my Tiger Shark..a pain really that usually needed a smaller sheet and so harder to deal with. Where would I find one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Second hand tables in sail shops. Ask here. You can just buy one...depends on your budget.. Buy a dunger with some good gear including that piece. Strip it and take it to the dump. That's what I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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