warbird Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Just both a 14 squared #66 off someone who had no idea. Seems that some blocks and cord for downhaul and rotation are missing. Anyone got a deck rigging image they could post? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted December 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Anybody out there at all own a 14squared? The rotation device on mine (66) seems to just be plain silly. How do you resist rotation/ or do you just let the mast do what it likes? I know you can make it rotate, but how do you stop it rotating? Have they modernised this idea? Originally posted by warbird: Just both a 14 squared #66 off someone who had no idea. Seems that some blocks and cord for downhaul and rotation are missing. Anyone got a deck rigging image they could post? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 hi lester, 14sq rotation. you should have a "spring block",about 300mm either side of the mastball, and a "cleat" a bit further out, (it all depends on who set up your boat).the mast spanner should face forward,and the control sheet should go from spanner to spring block to cleat and then to wherever you want it, you should have this gear on you boat. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 P.S.,this is the very basic setup,youcan increase your purchase by sheeting from spring block base to spanner(you can put small blocks here ), and then back to spring block and cleat. pete [This message has been edited by xmatelot (edited 05 December 2006).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 hi lester, if you look on the "nacra"forum posts, down in february 28 2006 is a post from "hood",which shows some good down haul and spanner systems. I know that they are off a 5.8, but they will steer you in the right direction, especially the first, "port". hope this helps. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted December 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Thank god, someone is out there. Thanks. Originally posted by xmatelot: hi lester, if you look on the "nacra"forum posts, down in february 28 2006 is a post from "hood",which shows some good down haul and spanner systems. I know that they are off a 5.8, but they will steer you in the right direction, especially the first, "port". hope this helps. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmatelot Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 lester, i hope i will allways be "out here" pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalTourGuide Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Hi Lester, I wouldn't worry too much about Mast rotation unless you want to coax maximum speed from your 14 downwind in racing.. The mast should naturally be close to the right position most of the time (the exceptions being overrotation helping a bit downwind) If you want I can email some photos of downhaul / rotation systems, There are many different systems in use as they can be tailored to your preference.. Glen / DigitalTourGuide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 that would be excellent lesterart@xtra.co.nz all help appreciated. Originally posted by DigitalTourGuide: Hi Lester, I wouldn't worry too much about Mast rotation unless you want to coax maximum speed from your 14 downwind in racing.. The mast should naturally be close to the right position most of the time (the exceptions being overrotation helping a bit downwind) If you want I can email some photos of downhaul / rotation systems, There are many different systems in use as they can be tailored to your preference.. Glen / DigitalTourGuide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalTourGuide Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Hi Lester, just sent you some photos of rigging prior to yesterdays racing at Kurnell (where the 14's were put to the test is a strong North Easter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmessee Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 did you go upside down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micky Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 The mast rotation is very important on a 14sq, especially in strong winds. As there are no diamonds rotation is the only way to play with your mast. It is important to lock mast off at 90 degrees downhill, reaches can let float except on a broad reach 90 is best. Upwind there are a few different opinions but in really fresh breezes all the top guys used to crank luff on, then rotate mast to 90 then more luff. this really helped depower the boat and get all the drive down low. Hope this is helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmessee Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Does anyone know the performance difference of the 4.5 against a 14sq??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleverNickname Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Judging by the yardstick, the 14 squared is quicker. The 4.5 has more sail area, but is also heavier and has 100kg min crew requirement. I would have thought that they'd be pretty even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmessee Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Thanks for that. I did not know the yardsticks but just looked them up. I will try and get out against some of them at Kurnell after Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbird Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Thank you all for your help and the phots are great Glen. I have been out for the second time and taking was a lot better but I still miss the odd one. I can't stand duffing tacks. I have been around just too long for that so ANY and all tips will be tried. Originally posted by Emmessee: Thanks for that. I did not know the yardsticks but just looked them up. I will try and get out against some of them at Kurnell after Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalTourGuide Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hi Emmessee, Yes please some along to Kurnell you would be very welcome to compare the 4.5 with the 14's. We have a growing fleet with up to 5 14's on the water. Had a nice sail today.(was less than 20kts for a change!) I'll post some photos of my boat under the rigging topic also FYI.. Glen/DigitalTourGuide.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalTourGuide Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hi again, re last weekend (with gusts to 30ish kts), not the 14's were the only class to have all boats finish and no capsizes. There was some serious carnage elsewhere.. The "Leader" newpaper in the Shire has a full back page spread with the story and photos if your interested.. Also some of these photos are on the kcc website now too.. Happy sailing Glen/DigitalTourGuide.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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