Hansonfamily4 Posted May 17, 2005 Report Share Posted May 17, 2005 I recently bought a second hand 5.8 and don't know how old the stays are. Has anyone broken any under normal conditions? How often do most sailors change them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantom Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 when i bought my calypso it was 25 years old so i assumed that the rigging was 25 years old ... the only safe assumption ... so i replaced all of my rigging then .... some people say to watch the wire etc for detoriation but my theory is that it can be a long swim home so for the safest bet change it ... if only for the peace of mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg W Posted May 18, 2005 Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Replace all wires - trapeze and stays every 2 years even if they look in pristine condition. Have had the short strop to the forestays break on my 16 Square and it was a moderately unpleasant experience! Cheers Greg Whalley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansonfamily4 Posted May 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2005 Thanks guys. I guess it's better to be safe than sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RWJ Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Saw a reasonably new 5.8 break a side stay at the Qld states this year (moderate winds). Could have caused a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooD Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 http://www.catsailor.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000011.html this a good thread on what to replace and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Originally posted by RWJ: Saw a reasonably new 5.8 break a side stay at the Qld states this year (moderate winds). Could have caused a lot of damage. the boat in question was 6-7 years old ,don't know how old the rigging was though. I've broke 2 forestays on a 5.8 one forestay was only 3 months old (top swag let go in 25/30knots ) ouch ,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat scratch fever Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 You know this decision to replace "parts" on the cat. Well i have been slowly getting new bits and bobs on my cat, though noticed that the current parts just do not seem to be built that well - as are all goods these days - not built to last. However, yes it is probably best to replace, i have replaced a lot stuff, not because it had broken, just didn't want to risk eqpt. failure - though i reckon the original parts are still good on my cat - 20 yrs young. Have Fun !! Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REV YUKKA II Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 i sailed my 5.8 for half a season with a wire hanging out of the main stay before i got new ones over the following winter. i must say that i did think about it a few times when i was in a blow. but the old girl never ever let me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 Originally posted by REV YUKKA II: i sailed my 5.8 for half a season with a wire hanging out of the main stay before i got new ones over the following winter. i must say that i did think about it a few times when i was in a blow. but the old girl never ever let me down. it's the broken wires inside the stay you got to worry about(the ones you can't see) sometimes you can be lucky,,,and other times not...I've had and seen gear failure with no warning signs.you just have to use your head ,if your sailing on a fresh water lake your rigging and hardware isn't going to be subject to the load or corrosion problems then if you sail on open water..so your standing rigging should infact almost last forever. In rigging most of your problems will be corrosion ,you might not even see the corrosion it usually happens inside the wire in the middle strands you can't see and 9 times out of 10 it's hidden down inside a roll swage or under a swag you can't see under,this is the reason why if you sail on salt water you have to replace rigging. I've also found some stainless wire is better quality than other and less prone to corrode .If your not sure replace it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brett Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 If you hold the swage near your ear and wiggle the wire whilst keeping the swage still you can hear broken internal strands click their ends against each other. No guarantees! Cheers, J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoom Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 We had a tornado break it's mast on the invitation race at the recent tornado nats here. one of the tube swages on the diamond stays gave way and suddenly no lateral support + all that sail area powered up = snap seems that the wire inside the swage fitting can pool salt water and corrode over time weaking the wire until impending failure. and the rigging was under 3 seasons old. so I guess maybe washing out after racing could help as I've seen neglected penned yachts snap sidestays due to the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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