Cascade Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Just wondering if any one knows how the NACRA Sirocco compares to other 14ft cats for speed and performance. Windrush, Maricats, Hobies and the like - with or without jib. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmessee Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 it would be faster that most of them if well sailed. the 4.5 floggs them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Has anyone ever tried to "soup" one of these up, They look like a bit of hassle free fun sailing. would be geat with a square top mylar main and Spinny kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmessee Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 The 4.5 is basically a turbo version of the Sirocco. I put a kite on the 4.5 and whipped many bigger boats. Piece of cake to sail and I pushed the hell out of it often and it just kept going and going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I would love to do a Sirocco to F14 spec, Spinnaker, Carbon, Square top Main, Make it the first foiling Nacra. Does anyone know the lotto numbers for next Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 The 460 is the one to play with if you want a fast and fun simple boat. It is much like the 4.5 thats sold here but it's updated with new beams and rudders etc. [This message has been edited by macca (edited 21 May 2009).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NACRAJON Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Don’t want 460s sold in Aust. Keep the 4.5 fleet building up, a couple of clubs now have half a dozen boats racing each week. I talked to a fella from BCC recently and was told they sold more 4.5s than anything else last year. Besides the twin traps on a 460 are the only positive. Put a 14^2 Spi on a 4.5 and with 3m^2 more sail area and 20kg less the 4.5 should blow it to the weeds. For AUS $5000 less. Nacra 460 Sport Spec Data • Lenght: 460cm • Width: 235cm • Mast Lenght: 778cm • Weight 142kg • Main Sail Area: 12.30m² • Jib Area: 3.15m² • Spinnaker Area: 15m² • SCHRS Rating: 1.227 • Homologation CE: C3/D4 • Construction: Polyester Standard Specifications: • MNX Mainsail Orange • MNX Jib fitted down to spi-pole Orange • Snuffer Kit complet • Nylon Spinnaker Black • Harken Mainsail Block 6:1 • Cunningham system 4:1 • Ariba Adjustable tiller stick • 2 Trapeze • Black Mesh Trampoline • Fully Harken Equipped USD 16,605.00 = AUS NACRA 4.5 Advertised Specs @ AUS $14000 + 14^2 Spi kit @ $2000 LENGTH: 4.56m (14’9”) BEAM: 2.44m (8’) DRAFT: n/a DISPLACEMENT: 120kg (264lb) SAIL AREA: 17.5sqm (188sqft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 The hulls on the 4.5 and 460 are essentially the same, so the two boats could be in same fleet. [This message has been edited by macca (edited 21 May 2009).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Wow, what a can of worms!!!!! The 4.5 Nacra is a nice boat, versatile, adaptable and fairly simple. I believe the 4.5 is aimed at the family more than the resort owner. Like the 14sq is aimed more at the racer. Now don't get me wrong, i love the 14sq more than any other boat I've owned, but It has a busted casting on the lower end of the mast which holds the pin, so I have issues putting the mast up on my own. The bank balance has taken a hit with unforseen costs during our renovations, so I'm "band aid-ing" until tax time. I can't wait to get it all sorted, should've just got the new one and be done with it!! What got my attention with the Sirocco was that it is the ideal boat to get the young ones in on the cat sailing act. I feel it is the harmless simplicity which appeals to the younger sailors at Tinaroo, because when they got the Bic O'pens, the numbers at the sailing school skyrocketed. I see the Sirocco having the same unintimidating appeal to the younger ones. All we had when i was a lad, was a hobie 14 or old slugger mari's/windrush. If i started a sailing school up here, they would be my boat of choice. I'm seriously considering it as my next purchase, but the 14sq is so much fun. I'm going to Port Douglas S.C. on the 6th June to see what happens there, as I was invited by one of the members (and I thought Port People were snobs... how wrong i was!!!!) and I'm trying to get a crew together to go up and have a fun day at the "Mini Nacra Knockout Regatta" on Sun 26th July. [This message has been edited by cruiser (edited 19 May 2009).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacra-maricat australia Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 The 4.5 sells here for $11990 for boat only.Not $14400 It is our biggest selling boat for the last 3 years. We are expecting a class at upcoming nationals in Hervey Bay in January. 2 news one leaving factory this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topscan Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Sailed Siroccos at Daydream island a couple of years ago but I found them fairly “dull”. I don’t know but it could have been a “resort version” if there is such a thing. Fairly short mast from memory, I guess they would be the perfect resort cat. My 4.5 feels like a racer compared to those Siroccos…. And for the suitability of the 4.5 as a club cat you only have to look at the kids from Port Douglas sail club. I am also in the process of “souping” up my 4.5 so look out. Its great to here that the 4.5 numbers are building… Tell me more about “ mini Nacra knockout” is this like match racing on a 4.5? you get drawn a 4.5 and you race against another 4.5 in a knock out comp? Also what happens on the 6th June in Port Douglas? (that’s the same weekend Townsville holding there sprint regatta) Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 From what Sue told me, you draw out a Nacra, go and have a sprint race and then who ever wins proceeds to next round. Sound like heaps of fun. Being a 4.5 man, you'd probably win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Originally posted by nacra-maricat australia: The 4.5 sells here for $11990 for boat only.Not $14400 It is our biggest selling boat for the last 3 years. We are expecting a class at upcoming nationals in Hervey Bay in January. 2 news one leaving factory this week. How's that compare with the Sirocco with trap and jib price wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topscan Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Have emailed Rob at the Port Douglas sailing club and asked for more info about the knock-out-sprint comp, would definitely come for a drive if its on and open to “southerners” Don’t wurrie every kid at the Port Douglas sail club beats me! Like to think its because they are 1/4 of my weight but I am afraid it has more to do with sailing skills… or lack there off My apologies to Cascade for getting this thread side tracked, In my book a 4.5 with main only is a much nicer package than a Sirocco if that ever was the question. Then you can ad jib, kite, front tramp, trapeze, in hull storage etc to the 4.5 and turn it in to whatever you want. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Hey Chris, do you know of any Sirocco's around Cairns? I'm liking the Idea of something that i can set up myself, Love the 14sq, but having issues with raising/ Lowering mast on my own. Just wanted to have a look at a Sirocco to check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Is there no Siroccos around the Far North???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topscan Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Cruiser, Sorry I don’t know if there is any around in far north QLD. I guess you could check with the resorts around Cairns? You could also contact Mick or Nacra in Brisbane and ask them. I guess Siroccos are living a more anonymous life than models that is actively raced…. There is one for sale in QLD on www.boatsales.com.au search for Nacra. Otherwise you have to take your family/friends to Daydream Island and sail them there better check that they still have them first. Good luck Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well, i found one at Port Douglas on Saturday, and they are fun!! Easy enough to wheel around the beach on your own, and a young sailor and I beat some "older " fellows on a 4.5!! The sirooco comes with a reasonably priced on board esky option for "CRUISING!!" still has the trap and jib option, will fit into any garage, shallow water rudder option for inland sailing (lake Eyre), 5 year Nacra warranty, heaps of bouyancy for extra passengers, Coloured sail option to help convince the ministry for War, Industry, Finance and Economic decisions or W.I.F.E. that it is a pretty boat and she can feel good about buying it. All that is missing is an assymetrical gennakker option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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