darcy1945 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 Add Toukley, the club would find a suitable w/end, and make the series best 6 of 9, I could guarantee 15/20 local boats. Regards, Darcy, Commodore, Toukley ASC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just One More Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I think 9 regattas is too much. The one thing I think will kill this is people will not want to travel. At this stage we need to establish the series so to many regattas may turn off some people. The other point is we still need to support our own clubs. The regattas suggested so far will have minimal impact as most are regattas currently attended. I still think we should adopt a maximum of 6 regattas and and select different regattas the following year. Paul L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 I agree with you paul, but the regattas included should be ones with strong fleets of 14, Mannering Park, Toukley, and Koonawara are all clubs built on 14s and will always have a good turnout, 30 plus? 14s, not sure of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just One More Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Valid point Darcy. May I suggest that Sando posts a schedule up so we can finalise the series and make arrangements Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 So here we go... Inagural NSW 14' Cat Travellers Series 2011/12 First offer regattas to be confirmed with host clubs 1/ Mannering Park ASC 14' Cat regatta, Lake Macquarie 8 & 9 October 2/ Kembla Klassic PKSC, Lake Illawarra 26 & 27 November 3/ Sail Sydney, Pitwater - Host TBA 17 & 18 December 4/ Koonawarra Bay SC 14' Regatta, Lake Illawarra 12 & 13 February 5/ Lake Walagoot SC Regatta 10 & 11 March 6/ Toukley SC, Comodore Darcy to find a date in April (avoid Easter 6-9 Apr) - Batemans Bay regatta is 21 &22 7/ BYRA Peter Loft Marathon 6th May ( 1 race - presentation and BBQ) In 2012-13 series ACT multihull regatta and Batemans Bay regattas to be considered based on patronage of regattas in the first year. Contact will now be made with the respective clubs and YA NSW. Finally, if hits on this forum topic are anything to go by (now over 1000) then we appear to be starting something special. This thread will be the point of communication for this series - SO STAY TUNED. As this series will be conducted on an opt in/out basis patronising existing regattas so insurance liability should fall in line with those regattas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Why not use Toukley's Brass Monkey, first series starter in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 3 days, 11,12,13, June, great venue, good rigging area, cheap entry (see notice of race, Toukley sailing club site). A good number of 14s already interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoSport260 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 wrong time of year. most boats are packed up for winter. most of us also have layup months in our insurance. it can blow like stink and be freezing at that time of year too. Thats why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquoll Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 > regattas to be confirmed with host clubs Wallagoot Lake Boat Club AGM is July 9th, at which I'll try and get the OK change to Koonawarra Yardsticks for 14'cats, and formal OK to include 14' cat traveller series. At this stage Commodore, Race Secretary and others all encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Tornado Sport, If you have something constructive to say, great, if not say nothing, if you do not turn up you will not be missed, if you do, you will be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoSport260 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Darcy, I reckon after 19yrs of sailing and 16yrs in the 14ft fold i'm able to make the comments I did. Typically the winter long weekend regattas are much less attended than non winter regattas. A) because they are often cold and my perception is most people don't like going sailing when its B) it often is a drifter or blows like stink (i've sailed both end of the wind range a enough times to justify that when the Brass Monkey was at Long Jetty in both Windrush & Lasers). C) its at the start of the 3most common lay up months in peoples insurance (June/July/August). At the end of the day the idea is to have as many people attend these regattas on 14ft cats as possible and to me its not the best event to acheive that. I won't be attending it this year regardless if it is or isn't a 14ft traveller series regatta. My boat will have a hole in the side of the starboard hull to have some work done and its a layup month on my insurance policy. Michael Windrush S/S 6327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 As previously stated, if it's not constructive, keep it to yourself. Toukley is a small club that relies on this regatta to pay costs or it will go the way of so many other small clubs (Long Jetty), your non attendance will not make any difference to the success of the Brass monkey or the 14' traveller series, it's 1 for you to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoSport260 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 We are suggesting an april regatta at Toukley not no regatta at all, which you previously said was more than do able. But now you seem hell bent on the Brass Monkey regatta. Add Toukley' date=' the club would find a suitable w/end, and make the series best 6 of 9, I could guarantee 15/20 local boats. Regards, Darcy, Commodore, Toukley ASC.[/quote'] After all the question was asked Why not use Toukley's Brass Monkey. I provided a reason for 'why not'. Still stumped as to how its not constructive to post relevant information for a 'why not' arguement... Anyway i've provided more than my share of thoughts on this. Sando has done alot of work already and there is still alot more to be done. I look forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoSport260 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So who thinks they will attend which regattas? Based on Sandos last list of events I reckon I can make these: 1/ Mannering Park ASC 14' Cat regatta, Lake Macquarie 8 & 9 October (maybe, depends on work committments for Bathurst) 2/ Kembla Klassic PKSC, Lake Illawarra 26 & 27 November (yes) 3/ Sail Sydney, Pitwater - Pittwater 17 & 18 December (yes) 4/ Koonawarra Bay SC 14' Regatta, Lake Illawarra 12 & 13 February (yes) 5/ Lake Walagoot SC Regatta 10 & 11 March (no) 6/ Toukley SC, Comodore Darcy to find a date in April (avoid Easter 6-9 Apr) - Batemans Bay regatta is 21 &22 (yes) 7/ BYRA Peter Loft Marathon 6th May ( 1 race - presentation and BBQ) (yes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Darcy, do you think Toukley would consider hosting a 14' regatta weekend on say 31 March & 1st April? If not I will approach Batemans Bay as the small cat fleet attendance this year was good due to the maricat titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Michael I'm amazed at you, too cold! ooh you poor thing, go sit by the fire and grumble about the weather - sure it is a bit on the cool side at the moment. Look on Sailing Anarchy front page, there's a fleet of Flying Fifteens sailing last weekend, 5 to 35 knots and I just googled Irish Sea Temperatures and it hasn't been over 13 degrees this month yet - more like 10-12. Our sea temp is 20! Like I've said elsewhere Draycote Water Sailing Club in the middle of England is open every day but xmas day. Some of the best fleet sailing used to be in the Autumn/Winter/Spring because everyone was there, no regatta distractions to dilute the fleet. I suggested the Brass Monkey as Toukley's offering but if you poor souls can't stand the warm (it really isn't cold!) then another Central Coast/ Hunter 14 ft regatta would be excellent. KO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquoll Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Grand vision for next season: - Paper Tiger State Titles, Wagga Wagga, 1 & 2 October 1/ Mannering Park ASC 14' Cat regatta, Lake Macquarie 8 & 9 October - ACT Multihull Champs, YMCA Canberra, 22 & 23 Oct - ACT Dinghy Cahmps, Canberra YC (NS14), 29 & 30 Oct 2/ Kembla Klassic PKSC, Lake Illawarra 26 & 27 November 3/ Sail Sydney, Pittwater, 17 & 18 December - Paper Tiger National Titles, Mannering Park, 3 - 8 January, 2012 4/ Koonawarra Bay SC 14' Regatta, 12 & 13 February - Twofold Bay Regatta (Eden), 18 & 19 Feb 5/ Wallagoot Lake Boat Club Regatta 10 & 11 March 6/ Toukley in April (?) - Paper Tiger International Titles, McCrae VIC, Easter 6 - 9 April 2012 - Batemans Bay Anzac Regatta 21 & 22 April 7/ BYRA Peter Loft Marathon 6th May (no; not travelling hundreds of km for 1 race!) Teeny little complication; will be looking for new home and job after end of November. Thinking Illawarra, but anything could happen. I'm qualified in environmental management, conservation & restoration ecology, renewable energy tech., multimedia, design (graphic, industrial, etc), CADD, and more. Will probably create a portfolio/website later on. Sorry about this spam, but please let me know of any opportunities! tonyquoll@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornadoSport260 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Michael I'm amazed at you, too cold! ooh you poor thing, go sit by the fire and grumble about the weather - sure it is a bit on the cool side at the moment. Look on Sailing Anarchy front page, there's a fleet of Flying Fifteens sailing last weekend, 5 to 35 knots and I just googled Irish Sea Temperatures and it hasn't been over 13 degrees this month yet - more like 10-12. Our sea temp is 20! Like I've said elsewhere Draycote Water Sailing Club in the middle of England is open every day but xmas day. Some of the best fleet sailing used to be in the Autumn/Winter/Spring because everyone was there, no regatta distractions to dilute the fleet. I suggested the Brass Monkey as Toukley's offering but if you poor souls can't stand the warm (it really isn't cold!) then another Central Coast/ Hunter 14 ft regatta would be excellent. KO Given that i've seen 'weather' (of which temperature is a factor) effect regatta numbers significantly, to me its not the best regatta to have in a travellers series. due to everything i stated. Don't like what I have to say, don't read it. I'm entitled to my opinion. And for your knowledge i'm sailing pretty much every weekend for the next 9-10weeks and i've sailing in Kiel when it was 6degrees air temp and 8degrees water temp. So think what you will. I note you don't rebut the comment about it being the start of the 3 most common layup months though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 My insurance doesn't have a layup period. Doesn't mean I don't go sailing though - lots of other things on unfortunately and no organised sailing. I say organised because I prefer to sail where there are others around me and hopefully some semblance or capability of rescue if I get into trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just One More Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I'm in for the series Mannering Park - yes Kembla Klassic - probably not on official boats Sail Sydney - yes Kanahooka - yes Wallagoot - definitely, had a fantastic tine last year Toukley - yes Batemans Bay/BYRA depending on invite to Bay to Bay race in QLD Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 Have put out feelers for interest in open cat regatta Toukley 31 Mar-01 Apr, another possible, which is already on the calendar for Mannering Park 14s, is the Stan Vitnell regatta (1st W/end Feb) at Budgewoi (between Mannering Park and Toukley on Lake Munmorah). Stan was a well liked Paper Tiger sailor/manufacturer lost to cancer. This regatta may be to close to Koonawarra for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sando Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Yes Darcy, probably too close to Koonawarra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketman Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 Whadyatryingto do wrong time of year. most boats are packed up for winter. most of us also have layup months in our insurance. it can blow like stink and be freezing at that time of year too. Thats why not. Brass monkey last year was great. There was people there from all over. The winds were kind and the temperature bear able. I did'nt see you there. You have now unfortunately discouraged some people from attending this years event with your negative comments. Please explain with your normal eloquence how to rectify the situation. The event from what I saw is a badge of honour to be shared among those who were dedicated enough to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 It's an open forum and everyone is entitled to their views. It is sailing after all. I don't think that anyone who reads this forum would change their minds though, by June most of us will be hanging out for a good sail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyquoll Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 the weekend of 31 Mar - Apr 1 is 1 week before Paper Tiger Internationals at McCrae, Victoria. It would be too much driving and time off work to do both. The schedule posted on previous page shows the season is fairly chocka, from Oct to April inclusive. Very much looking forward to the Toukley Brass Monkey next month; because season has ended here it provides adequate motivation for the long drive to get up there. I like that the 14' cat traveler series includes existing events; no need to create a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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