exhogger Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Is it possible to repair a split in a beach wheel of this type if so how. If not does anyone know where I could get a replacement. The original manufacturer is long out of business. I'm too embarrassed to say how the blowout occurred.Ross.I am unable to upload the pic for some reason but the wheel is the same type as in a previous post titled 'Rollers on Ebay' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbieandrew Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 You might be able to try plastic welding it though that's difficult stuff, youtube it. Alternatively maybe fiberglass it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exhogger Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks for your reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymick Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 gdaythere is a guy here who does plastic welding ? WodongaChould be someone near you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exhogger Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Definitely interested ymick. More info please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymick Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Tel: 02 6024 3424 Fax: 02 6056 1181Email: sales@borderplasticwelding.com.au6 MOLONEY DRIVE WODONGA, VICTORIA 3690AUSTRALIAnot the one i used but i googled plastic welding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exhogger Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Many thanks ymick. I guess I could have done that but I didn't know such a trade existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymick Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 cooli found guy i used via sign outside his househe is a very multi skilled type about 70yold from canada and spent 50 years on and around boatsknows more than i ever willmust find him againhe is a bit grump though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interested Posted February 5, 2014 Report Share Posted February 5, 2014 50 years around boat repairs will do that to some.50 minutes for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 My plastic drum rollers are showing their age a bit and even tho some TLC has been lovingly applied, I'd say they be lucky to see another season.Maybe some plastic welding might hold them for another year but age & sunlight has really not done them any favours...... So I was wondering as to what to replace them with...... has anyone tried ATV or quad bike wheels before ? These are around the right size and are reasonably priced new and even cheaper from the m/cycle wreckers...... I know that machining the hubs isn't fun, forged steel doesn't play nicely, but I think I could machine up an alloy hub that would suit and even do a set of nylon bearings similar to the plastic drum style bearings I recently made for my old drum rollers..... Using a lump of 3" alloy shaft and welding on say a 10mm thick alloy plate to make the hub's flange and an hour on the lathe should produce a good hub for the ATV wheels..... anyone seen / tried / or have any experience of ATV wheels ??????? another idea may be some of the newer style ride-on mower wheels...... specifically the zero-turn type mowers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Plastic hub wheelbarrow wheels, from bunnings, knock out the bearings and the internal dia is almost 50mm or 2", a hole saw will clean out the hub to your axle dia (usually 50mm or 2") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacra-cam Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hi I have had mule wheels for beach rollers for a couple of years , and they work fine .Used tyres were easy to get at no cost.Bought alloy mag wheels to suit at $110 each .Biggest cost was getting alloy hubs made to suit with nylon bushes.They end up a little heavier than the new type with the plastic hubs .I trimmed what was left of the lugs with a knifeto lighten them up a little , ran a sander over them and. they look more like a tube . The work much better than the plastic wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 Well I've got a set of Yamaha 225cc ATV wheels the front tyres are reasonably wide and quite high in their profile, the rears however are very wide but not as high in the profile.....so I do atleast have a choice as to which to use. The wider tyres will suit soft sand but the narrower tyres would be far better for most of the other beach surfaces I use, these include a muddy clay thick buffalo grassed areas, and tarmacked loading ramps. testing and time will tell as to which ones will get the nod. I've started making the hubs......75mm alloy shaft cut to ~120mm long, these will be the centre bit for the nylon bearings.12mm alloy plate cut to a 185mm diameter, this will be the wheel mounting surface. So far I've spent 1.5hours just welding the shaft to the plate, thick alloy is tricky to weld without suffering from heat stresses, welds cracking or warping material.I had 2 choices ~1 cold weld it = really hot welding setting and only doing short welds (25mm) with peening and long periods of cool-down before adding another short weld2 hot weld it = heat the bejesus out of it all, weld it with a hot setting, & while its still pharking hot pack it in a sand box and walk away for a day...... and pray it doesn't stuff up while its hidden away in the hot box cooling down cold welding it is One hub is now in the lathe and I've done an hour on it............its been bored out to take my nylon 'bearings' and the wheel mounting surface has been faced , probably another hour to go on that hub before starting on the 2nd hub..... The time consuming part is going to be the making of the hubs, the only other way would have been to buy a piece of 200mm diameter shaft and just spend several hours on the lathe machining most of it away..... If anyone's interested I can do some pics if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 This is fairly typical of my rollers cracks....... probably 30% of these joints are cracked in the same manor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 the cracks then began to go soft and the roller actually had a really bad soft spot at that part of the rotation, the side wall of the roller has also began to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 so....... as I posted before, I started with some plate and solid shaft and did some welding ..... this is the "hub" being faced off and the shaft being machined down to the size I'd chosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 boring bar in action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I also machined in a step in both sides of the housing, these will act as a 'stop' for the hub/bearing so the hub remains where I place it on the shaft..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 wheel stud holes piloted ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 studs fitted, I went with 3/8 whitworth bolts, I also taped a thread into the flange, when I'm 100% happy with it all I'll glue these in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Nylon bushes were the ones I made to replace the old ones that came with the original rollers, I re-machined them to suit these new hubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 These are my "new wheels" slightly well used front wheels from a Yamaha YFM 225 4wheeler motorbike..... I have the rears aswell and thought they may suit the really soft sand....... BUT................. I've since finished all the fitting and done a test run and I wont be needing the rears. They work a treat, definitely heavier to lift and carry around when You unpacking the trailer etc, but as far as moving the boat aroundall I can say is WOW !!!!so easy to do, in one spot there's a 2foot drop and it took me and the crew all of our strength to get just the hulls up it, now we can easily do it fully rigged One minor change will be the clearance that the nylon bearing / alloy hub has...... I gave one side 1.5mm of clearance which was suggested by a couple of others and the other side I only gave .75mm of clearance........That side will be machined down to have the 1.5mm clearance ..... have to let the water IN & OUT and its the water that acts as the lubricant when your wheelin it around.... I'll add some more pics of it setup and in action later on..... till then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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