Dr Peter Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 How many of us dabble in both camps? For example you race a cat but also own a trailer sailor for cruising. In my case I own a Maricat cat rig and an Investigator 563 and enjoy both boats very much. Any one else? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Guilty too Peter, I have a Careel 18 (No 200 Katrina) which I bought about eight years ago just because I wanted to sail again as my kids were growing up and didn't need constant ferrying around. Just happened that Katrina was an old racer. She's served us well and although my wife hates boats me and some of the kids have had a great time, racing mostly and mainly on Pittwater and the nationals on Lake Mac. I did buy a Careel 22 but it didn't work out so I sold it and then went looking for a boat to sail single-handed - went along to Mannering Park and was drawn in by its force field! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 WAGS and boats We have just got an Investigator 563 which my wife and I cruise (just did 4 days at Gippsland Lakes). She loves sailing and crews on a Castle 650 at our club. Lucky for me. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I have a Mosquito which I race Mk1 on Sundays and a Flying Fifteen which I race with my daughter Saturdays. Its good racing completely different types of boats, the contrasts have help me stay interested in the sport. My kids never got into racing with me on the Mozzie but the Flying Fifteen has been a real success, they dont even get wet most of the time and feel secure sailing on a "real" boat. For me, I prefer the cat as I like the speed and trapezing but planing downwind with the spinnaker up on the Flying Fifteen has its merits. I got into the Flying Fifteen after reading an article on the net about the demise of sailing so I decided to do something about it at a personal level, figuring that if I can get one of my kids into the sport, then it might not go down the gurgler. I bought an old classic in poor condition, very cheap, raced it for a season while fixing it then did a complete restore last winter. In the end, the whole project cost under 5 grand including boat purchase, newer sails, and total rebuild on boat and trailer. Now the wife and kids all sail on the boat which is sailing most weeks and my daughter is hooked on the sport. I think owning a cat and trailerable keel boat gives access to some of the best parts of the sport. Darryn Mosquito 1782 Bullet and Flying Fifteen 1678 Jumping Jack Flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 It's fairly common to have a foot in both camps, here at Mannering Park we have many sailors with both for various reasons, mine is that I enjoy the TS sailing on WAGS and use it to train some of our juniors, but the cat rush on the w/ends is always anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Interesting - our first boat was a classic Flying 15. I was initially going to sail it with my son. Then he discovered Lasers, skateboards and cars and I was left with a two person boat. My wife stepped up and she just loved it. This weekend she crewed on a boat at the Timpenny titles at Yarrawonga. I bobbed around in a rescue boat. Always enjoyed our 15. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray580 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 i have had both but not at same time, i previously owned a racing 8 metre trailer bucket. was an 80's JOG style design but still quick, sold it because too hard getting three crew each week and my kids too young to crew on it. got into the cats( mossies) along side darryn kopp, loved it!!! bought a stingray now sailing with my kids, but now keen on getting another trailer bucket. very keen on elliot 7 or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymick Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 me too a sonata 6, windrush 14 and black witch [think 18 foot mozzie] love to fish and cruise around for day plus camp out once in awhile in a bit of wind why not go fast instead of stress old rigging on old trailer sailer when wind and weather good cat if not ts cruise most boats are a compromise so need for two better suited to one pursuit each best option my 15 yold daughter happy to bob around on windrush and use as sun deck with girl friends but in a bit of wind lots of fun to be had on windrush black witch, giddy up and hold on for inexperienced like me "he who has most toys when he dies wins" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inland_Sailor Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 I sail one of the few Windrush 600 that are left, so get both aspects in the one boat!!!! Great concept, can launch and sail off the beach for club events but also gives me the option to sail in the classic passage races like the Marlay, the Goolwa-Meningie and the Bay to Bay!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Camps is the operative word http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/multihulls/narrowing-beam-32148-2.html If you go to the bottom of the page in the above link you'll see what Inland Sailor is on about. Is this a foot in both camps? But Greg, I always thought you slept in the clubhouse?? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inland_Sailor Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Peter, Never thought of that option. A real answer to sleeping in the clubhouse and having to stay up until HMM HMM the last ones leave!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inland_Sailor Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 Peter, Never thought of that option. A real answer to sleeping in the clubhouse and having to stay up until HMM HMM the last ones leave!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted April 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 so much red wine so little time at least I can stay up late! in the clubhouse Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul124ac Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 2 TS's and 2 cats. I could solve this by buying an F32 I suppose, fast and roomy, would only need another mortgage or two. There is another W600 at AWYC Greg. Gets sailed about twice a year. Your's is yellow right? And Peter, I've been hearing rumours about a recent purchase? No more Maricats? BTW I'm organising a long distance race during winter, anyone from YYC be interested? OTB as well as TY's, around 10NM windward return, 8am start to catch the ghost but pizza, beer and bullshit afterward, sat. so you blokes can stay over. I'll keep you informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inland_Sailor Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I know the W600 at AWYC. It was also sailed at Mokoan when the owner lived in the area. It's one of the wide 10'6" models made at the end of the W600 build. Mine's a cream 8'6" original narrow version. They each have different handicaps, the wider at 106, the narrow at 112. As far as a passage race on Lake Hume goes, if it gets underway, let me know. we still have a few sailors from NEW [North East Windsport Club, formally MoYC] including myself, who may well be interested in getting involved, especially if its akin to the Tallangatta Race!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted May 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 They've dropped the water level at Lake Mulwalla so we were wondering about winter activities. I reckon there would be a fair bit of interest. The last one to Tallangatta was well rec'd by all accounts. I didn't go but the first mate did. Get onto Trevor Turnbull ASAP - I'm pretty sure the TS boys and girls would be keen but at 10km, I think I might leave the Maricat at home. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray580 Posted May 8, 2011 Report Share Posted May 8, 2011 10km? last month we did nearly 70km at kingston on cats. toughen up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inland_Sailor Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Yeah Pete....., You should do about that in a normal club race. I know we tried to do that when Mokoan was in existence. At 1 Nm per leg; triangle =3Nm, windward and return = 2Nm , triangle =3Nm and beat to the finish =1Nm plus all tacks IE = 10Nm. As a cat sailor, I loved it when the OOD got it wrong and set a I Km work and a 2Km reach!!!!! I've got to say, windward and returns leave me cold, just a procession!!! The most exhilarating and interesting part of a race are the reaches, with all the catching up, passing and blocking maneuvers that take place at speed within arms length from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcy1945 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Any of you cat sailors know of any Status 580 or status slipstream T/S in your area? we have a few club members interested in buying. ph 0243591729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul124ac Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I think you need new glasses there Doc. That would be 10NM, not KM. I've got a GPS track from Easter, was an 8.5NM beat, 10NM in a straight line. If there is wind *shrug* we can chuck a wing mark in and make it longer. I've done the course in the Hydra, was a hoot so harden up Princess. Only drawback is limited rescue, have to rely on TS's and maybe 1 patrol boat but trying to arrange some waterproof VHF's for OTB's. Stay tuned, I've got Trev's number. Status 580's are fairly thin on the ground, Robb Legg design and there were quite a few built as daycabin racers but very few TS types. There is a fleet down at Payensville owned by the club, and a few private ones as well so might be worth a ring, Gippsland Lakes Yacht Club. Failing that an i550 would be a great boat, or an Elliot 5.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knobblyoldjimbo Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Now you've let Darcy know about them there'll be only one place that sails them - Mannering Park!! The Slipstream is the one that has a cabin, very nice looking boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Change Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Status 580 is a Van de Stadt design, built by both Rob Legg and Timpenny Yachts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchlb44 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Just saw this... where have been! I own a Stingray!! .... and sort of a Castle 650... though it could argued it's my fathers! Anything with sails has merit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray580 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 i was wondering when you were going to join in mitch!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Peter Posted June 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 I'm not alone!!!!! Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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